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Author sblatt99
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From State: NC 

#1 | Posted: 16 Jan 2019 00:26 
I'm confused with H2H. I will give you an example.

3A 126
Caleb Smith beat Josh Wilson by MD last weekend and Caleb went from #1 to #2 due to -.6 in the head to head column. I'm pretty sure prior to that match Caleb had 0.0 in the H2H column. Caleb has lost both his matches this year to Ethan Oakley in 2A, who's ranked #2. Just seems that a direct H2H would have more value and effect the rankings in a more true way.

No Dog in the fight just something I noticed.

Author timothy_kennett
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From State: NC 

#2 | Posted: 16 Jan 2019 17:19 
sblatt99
That definitely seems like a mistake since out of classification H2H does not count (Like Oakley vs. Smith). Josh should have the - H2H points for his Caleb. Just the way I see it.

Author Admin
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From State: MO 

#3 | Posted: 17 Jan 2019 02:43 
We actually do make H2H adjustments for all wrestlers in a weight class even if their schools are in a different class. Caleb Smith has a downward adjustment because of his losses to Ethan Oakley. Caleb and Josh Wilson are super close in their overall score, so they might swap again soon. Great tournament for Caleb to beat Josh and the #3 ranked wrestler in their too.

The H2H adjustments can be confusing, especially late in the season. We won't get them all right but we do get about 80% of the year-end state tournament matches correct every year, so we will stick with our algorithm even when common sense argues otherwise in specific cases. It's one of the side effects of having an objective system.

Author bigskycountry
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From State: NC 

#4 | Posted: 9 Jan 2020 17:15 
In the overall 220, Levi Andrews has -1.1 H2H. His losses are very close twice to highly ranked Tristan Norris and once to once to Nick Minacapelli (no. 1). He has beaten Dallas Rash twice and pinned Jaron Greer. Rash and Greer are both ranked higher than Levi and neither have negative H2H. It's no big deal, but that does not quite make sense.

Author Admin
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From State: MO 

#5 | Posted: 10 Jan 2020 18:09 
It is because of the negative head-to-head adjustment from his loss to Norris. We start at the bottom of the rankings by total score before head to head adjustments then work our way up. Before h2h Rash is 97.4%, Andrews is 98.3% and Norris is 99.1%. Rash goes first for H2H, and he did not beat anyone above him. Then goes Andrews – again no H2H. Finally Norris. He dropped significantly due to H2H from his loss at the beginning of the season to Grayson Cannon. But then he got a positive H2H for beating Andrews. After that H2H, Rash squeezed between them in the rankings, but Andrews' turn for H2H adjustments is already over. Not ideal, but if we keep going it becomes an endless loop. Hopefully it will straighten out over the rest of the season.

Hope that helps!

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